India has the second largest Muslim populated (138+ million) country after Indonesia (200+ million) in the world.

India is on the way of becoming the largest Muslim nation in the world very soon. It all started over 1000 years ago following Muslim invasion of India. Little by little almost 30+% of India’s original population and adjoining countries are now Muslim. Many of the Hindu/Buddhist populated countries have been replaced by Muslims and are on the way to the extinction of the Hindu/Buddhist population.

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TABLE I

Percent of total population on Hindu-Muslim religions between 1871-1941

Year   Hindu    Muslim

1871*  73.50     21.50

1881   78.09     19.97

1891   74.24     20.41

1901   72.87     21.88

1911   71.68     22.39

1921   70.73     23.23

1931   70.67     23.49

1941   69.46     24.28

After the partition in divided India

1947   87-8       7-9**

1951   85         9.9

1961   83.5      10.7

1971   82.7      11.2

1981   82.6      11.4

1991   82.0      12.1

2001***80.5      13.4

The reasons for the higher Muslim population growth are due to Muslims populations as a  whole are ? a) less educated leading to less earning and more children compare to most other non-Muslim Indian population. b) Muslim religion encourages to have a larger family and ? family planing is against their religion. c) Considerable number of Muslim illegal immigration from neighboring country. d) Some Muslim men have multiple wives. e) Many Muslim men marry non-Muslim women. f) Female foeticide is more common among Hindus. Though effects of d, e and f may be small, if one understand "power of compounding", the effects over decades are huge.

THE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION AND DECADAL GROWTH RATE FORM A MAJOR RELIGIOUS POPULATION FROM CENSUS 1991* AND 2001.

           81/91   91/01      81/91   91/01

Hindus  82.00   80.5       25.1    20.3

                                     22.8    20**

Christians 2.34  2.3       21.5    22.6

Sikhs      1.94  1.9       24.3    18.2

Buddhists  0.76  0.8       35.3    24.5

Jains      0.40  0.46       4.0     2.6

*Corrected data

** Lower line s is corrected data. Jammu & Kashmir population data was not included in the 81/91 as there was no census there in 1991 in J&K causing this difference.

Another source mentioned Hindu Growth rate in 2001 as 19.9: Reference: Charles Isaac: Release of religion-wise figures sparks controversy, News India-Times, September 17, 2004, page 14.

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* Spelt as in the reference 1(one) as below:

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***Hindu+Sikhs 41.25%

Reference:

1. Census 1871-1872:

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TOTAL MUSLIM POPULATION IN INDIA IS A MYSTERY!

Now it seems that everyone talks and agrees that India has the second largest Muslim population. It has to be close to 14% or more as shown in the statistics below:

These statistics show that the 2001 population of Pakistan was 153,578,000. Ninety-seven percent of the Pakistani population was Muslim and about 1.8% Hindu in 1981 (page 5 or 6 of this book), even Christian and other religions were 1% in 1981. Considering these ratios have been maintained (most likely more Hindus have left Pakistan and converted to or accepted Islam), Pakistan’s Muslim population had to be at least 145 million in 2001. So India’s Muslim population had to be more than 145 million in order to be the second largest Muslim nation in 2001. Even though the data and extrapolated calculation could be slightly incorrect, the conclusion is still valid.

Current Population for All Countries: data of 2001 published in 2003
Source: United Nations, World Population prospects and U.S. Dept. of Commerce (midyear figures, in thousands)

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TABLE XIRank    Country    Population

1.      China      1,304,196

2.      India      1,065,462

3.      USA           294,043

4.   Indonesia        219,883

5.      Brazil        178,470

6.   Pakistan        153,578

7.   Bangladesh       146,736

8.     Russia         143,246

9.      Japan         127,654

The idea of Pakistan and its many uncertain futures: Here the author mentioned that "….. it is much more and not always in a positive sense, lends the country of 159 million people special weight. Here the country mentioned is Pakistan as an introduction to the book. "The Idea of Pakistan and its many uncertain futures" by Stephen Cohen.

"Then support secular India, a multi-religious society home to the world's second largest Muslim population. India's 150 million Muslims, including the world's largest community of Shiites outside Iran, instinctively recoil from Sunni-dominated Al Qaeda" (2).

If one is to believe this source, that means at least 15% of the population in India is Muslim.

Census is controversial in most countries. For most of us, census numbers are about as close as we can get to facts. They are the products of counting actual persons and compiling the results. But as is apparent from the most recent U.S. census, this information is used in multiple ways by the government and by interest groups, including religious organizations. Census data is thus not value neutral; it suggests different agendas for different members of that counted population. As the recent U.S. census also illustrates, methods for gathering these facts are imprecise and controversial. It turns out that census data is not as incontrovertible as it first appears; both the numbers and the methodology of the census are open to interpretation. Are the census figures still facts?(3).

Indian census figure is controversial to all possible groups in India as regard facts, figures, methodology and everything one can imagine mainly along the cast and communal line as expected. The Census of 2001 included 2 million numerators visiting 650,000 villages, 5,500 towns and many cities to collect demographic and socio-economic data covering over a billion people. The Indian census department had done an incredible job and provided valuable information, though not to everybody’s likes.

The following comment; the census indeed appears almost designed to conceal rather than collect useful data. The widely circulated newspaper Indian Express commented: "The joke that statistics [are] like a bikini-clad person, who reveals the irrelevant and hides the significant, is surely apt for the census operations in our country (4).

Many, especially Muslims, in India think that there are more Muslim in India than shows in the past census figures-

While Hindus of different castes and Christians are debating correctness of

In the state of Assam, there were reports of people chasing census takers out of villages dominated by immigrants from Bangladesh. (7)

"At least two incidents of people preventing officials from carrying out census related duties has come in with rumors spreading that the enumerators would ask for citizenship certificates and other documents, a government spokesman said. (7)

"Some of the villagers who do not possess citizenship documents fear they would be caught and hence such tactics to scare away officials." (7)

It is most likely that the censuses in the past had underestimated the total Muslim population in India. Muslim population in India was between 15 to 25% in 2001. The correct figure possibly lies some where in between.

Lastly, but not least, from The Statesman

"How much greater is the need in India which has a larger number of Muslims than Pakistan?" (8) - indirectly means more than 14%

References:

2.India + Iran = a foundation for stability by Stanley A. Weiss IHT February 6, 2003, http://www.iht.com/articles/85731.html

3. The Indian Census, Hindu-Christian Dialogue, and Perceiving the Religious 'Other' by Judson B. Trapnell, The Census: Intehttp://www.infinityfoundation.com/mandala/s_es/s_es_trapn_census.htmrpreting Facts

http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/readersvoice/wpoiotoil.html

HOW SOON INDIA WILL BECOME A MUSLIM NATION?

Without any doubt, the present rate and conditions (mainly, higher birth rate of Muslim and illegal Muslim immigration) persist, India will become a Muslim majority (more than 50%) country very soon - most likely within several decades. Exactly how many decades? The calculation from above (1920s), some 80+/- years ago, indicates that it will take 420 years or so. Is this calculation is really correct?

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TABLE XII

HINDU/MUSLIM % IN UNDIVIDED INDIA IN 1921, 1931* & 1991.

YEAR HINDU MUSLIM

1921 70.73 23.23

1931 70.67 23.49

1991       28.64

*Please see page 2 of this book for reference

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TABLE XIII

POPULATION OF INDIA, PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH IN 1991*

* See page 2 and 7 references and extrapolation of percent data in approximate figures.

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TAVLE XIV

TOTAL MUSLIM POPULATION IN 1991 IN THE THREE COUNTRIES

INDIA      120,000,000

PAKISTAN   139,000,000

BANGLADESH 115,000,000

TOTAL      374,00,0000

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TABLE XV

PERCENTAGE OF COMBINED MUSLIM POPULATION IN 1991 OF INDIA, PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH

374,00,0000/1,30,5876,000=28.64%

If India was undivided, in about 70-75 years the Muslim population would have grown from approximately 23.5% in 1920s to 28.6% in 1991, a difference of 5.1%.

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So, why is such a great difference of rate of growth in these two situations? This will be discussed in detail in the next book.

THE SECRET OF SUCH TREMENDOUS MUSLIM POPULATION GROWTH LIES IN THE

more powerful than all the armed forces of the world including USA. It needs a critical mass or number to be recognized, realized and appreciates the power of compounding. For example, if some one has Rs.1000 and other has Rs.500, 000.Both receive 10% annual interests, and interest gets reinvested (compounding). In 7.2 years, Rs.1000 will become Rs.2000 and the next 7.2 years it will be Rs.4000, and in case of Rs.500, 000 will become 1,000,0000, in first 7.2 years and will be 2,000,000, in the next 7.2 years i.e., in total of 14.4 years---this is the effect of the power of compounding. In the example of Rs.500,000, one can say a critical mass/number is reached to make a difference. So, has the critical mass/number for Muslims in India been reached?

Will the Muslim population percentage in India double within the next few decades and then from here again will double in just several decades?

Even if the Muslim population grows just by one percent (1%) more in every decade (as happened in past 50 years in India), it will be maximum in about 360 years (36x10), the Muslim population will overtake the Hindu population. It is unlikely that it will take 360 years, but far less than 360 years to reach the more than 50% figure.

It took over 1300 years for the Muslim population to reach 25% or so for the undivided India. Now, in about 360 years maximum, divided India’s Muslim population will be more than 50%. In undivided India i.e., India, Pakistan & Bangladesh, is considered, this percentage will be considerably more. This is what has happened and is happening in Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Arab countries and many other countries, including UK, France, Holland and yes, even in USA.

The consequences are enormous for people India, neighboring countries and the world.

WHY

INDIA WILL BECOME A MUSLIM MAJORITY NATION?

WHAT WILL BE ITS CONSEQUENCES?

"History Repeats Itself""Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them." George Santayana

The Spanish philosopher, Santayana, wrote that `those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them'. How vicious do the lessons have to be before we learn them? How many small communities do we have to destroy before we start to count the real costs

Is there a solution of future Hindu-Muslim conflict in India? How to safeguard Hindus and Hindu India   The growth of Muslim population from 7% to 14% in last 50 years which means 138 million Muslim people. In another 50 years this will be somewhere close to 30% or 300 million. Increasing Muslim population is a very long term trend(table I and II). One should remember how Pakistan was created. How less than 30% population of undivided India forced to create Pakistan. Kashmiri Muslims (less than 5 million) want separation from India. Bordering areas of West Bengal and Assam consist of virtually 100% Muslim population with vast number of illegal Bangladeshi Muslims. In Kosovo, Albanian Muslims have outnumbered the Christian Slavic population over centuries and on the verge of creation of Muslim Kosovo Nation. Rapid growth of Muslim population is a world wide phenomenon. This is true in UK, France, Holland and even in USA. 2000 to 3000 US citizens mainly blacks are getting converted to Islam every month. “There are almost a billion reasons to suggest that Moslem [sic.] influence will grow,” wrote demographer and commentator Ben Wattenberg ten years ago, citing figures from the government funded Population Reference Bureau (PRB) in Washington. “In 1950, there were 375 million Moslems in the world. There are 983 million today. By 2020, PRB projection shows almost 2 billion,” he continued in a book with the revealing title, The First Universal Nation.” Reference: News Archive, The Rush to War Fear, not Strength. http://www.africa2000.com/newsarchive.html This trend is unlikely to reverse in near or far future or ever.   Table I Statistics of Indian Population UNDIVIDED INDIA: Percent of total population on Hindu-Muslim religions between 1871-2001 Year   Hindu   Muslim 1871   73.50   21.50 1881   78.09   19.97 1891   74.24   20.41 1901   72.87   21.88 1911   71.68   22.39 1921   70.73   23.23 1931   70.67   23.49 1941   69.46   24.28 After the partition in divided India 1947   87/88    7-9** 1951   85       9.9 1961   83.5    10.7 1971   82.7    11.2 1981   82.6    11.4 1991   82.0    12.1 2001   80.5    13.4 TableII A COMPARISON OF 1871 and 1980 DATA FROM VAIABLE DATA. `APPROXIMATE COMBINED POPULATION OF INDIA+PAKISTAN+BANGLADESH in percentage (%) Year  Hindu  Muslim 1871* 73.50  21.5 1980  63.8   28.2` 1980 data may not be 100% correct as this obtained from different sources. Point here is, if one wish to compare the Hindu/Muslim population growth, it should also take into account for the entire Indian sub-continent. Table III FERTILITY RATE BY DIFFERENT RELIGION 2001 CENSUS NUMBER OF CHILDREN PER WOMAN                HINDUS SIKHS CHRISTINE MUSLIM Fertility rate  2.8    2.3     2.4      3.6 Table IV DECADAL HINDU/MUSLIM GROWTH RATE (%) BETWEEN 1961-2001 RELIGION 1961-1971 1971-1981 1981-1991 1991-2001 HINDU       23.7     21.3      22.8       20 MUSLIM      30.8     22.9      32.9       29.3 1961 & 2001 The Muslim growth and fertility rate is almost 50% higher cosistently over the decades as compared to the Hindus (tables III&IV). Most likely this was so in the past and will continue in future. During the next 50 year, percentage of Muslim population will increase more rapidly as growth rate of the Hindus will fall at a greater rate than the Muslim growth rate. Muslims will never will live with the Hindus as minority.There is no doubt that India will be divided again and again, on basis of religion. unless something is done or unforeseen happens. The SOLUTION is: already happening and will continue to happen in a smaller scale spontaneously. At present there are predominant Muslim and Hindus areas of every Indian cities. Only Muslim or only Hindu villages with occasional only minor overlap. After every communal riot there is migration of population as happening now in Iraq. Shias are moving to Shia dominated areas and Sonis are moving to Soni dominated areas. There is already state in North East where Christian dominates. In Kashmir, muslim domination has already been achieved by force. When Muslim minority in India reaches a significant number, Muslim Kashmiris will be able to break way at will. Virtually 100% Muslim dominated areas of bordering W Bengal and Assam with large number of illegal Bangladeshi Muslim can as well demand independent or want to join Bangladesh. This is a reality. The Muslim in W Bengal and Assam (many are Bangladeshis) feel they are discriminated in power sharing and some of them wish to impose Muslim laws now. Bangladeshi Muslim for financial gain or to grab some land, may decide simply to breakaway.They have made and still making Hindus to live in Bangladesh unbearable so as to leave Bangladesh and grab their land and properties. They will do the same in W. Bengal.  With increasing Muslim population in India, minor and major communal riot will be a more frequent occurrences. Basically most communal riots are started by the Muslims. Once again communal riot may be used to break up the country. History repeats itself.  Even after Ghodra, there was a communal riot started by Muslims  in Marad, in Kerala where seven people were killed and all were Hindus. ( read later In 1971 Pakistani Army killed some 2.5 million Bengalee Hindus ( no, not a misprint) in E Pakistan. Not many Indians including Hindu Bengalee know this. At present,  there is no one in earth can prevent genocide.  It will continue to occur at various parts of world. Look at Darfur , what happening there now-today, as we are living, is just shameful. World just  is watching in horor for past few years and  can do nothing to stop this massive genocide. Obviously, this can happen in many parts of the world and will happen including India. So Something should be done urgently. RIOTS OF 1992-93 MUMBAI & 2001 GHODRA RIOTS. These two riots are frequently rather quoted in IA (Prof. Amirtya Sen, Sept. 2006, P Thomas Ja.,2007, and many others} and many other papers without proper evaluation. Here is some information are presented for appropriate evaluation. ”According to the Srikrishna Commission Report which investigated the 1992-93 riots…… About 900 (575=64% Muslims, 275=31%) Hindus, 45 unknown and 5 others) lost their lives in the riots. 1991 Indian census showed Muslim popupation as 12.1%  and Bombay's  Muslim population was more or less was same, 31% Hindus got killed. In 2000, a special task force under the supervision of K P Raghuvanshi (the same person who is investigating the 2006 Mumbai train blasts case) was set up to review the closed cases. A total of 1,358 cases were closed after being found "true but not detected." Around 112 cases were scrutinised, of which eight were reopened” “Consider the facts. On February 27, 2002, coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express, a train carrying kar sevaks, was attacked at Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people were incinerated, and the resultant anger led to a week of intense riots. The violence eventually killed, as per figures given to Parliament by the UPA Government on May 11, 2005, 790 (79.6%)Muslims and 254 (20.4%) Hindus, many of the latter dying in police firing.” Indian census showed Muslim population  as 13.4% while 20.4 % Hindus were killed. This is is the difference between Pakistan and Bangladesh and India. There is no Hindu-Muslim communal riots in Pakistan since partition. Only Hindus gets killed. But in India there is communal riots , frequently stared by the Muslims and comparatively more Hindus than Muslims get killed. It shows that Indian Muslim knows how to take care of themselves as oppsed to minorities in Bangladesh and Pakistan, ---------- 2.5 miilion Hindus  got parished in 1971 in E Pakistan, I doubt that they ever killed a single majoritu Bring the 2001 bangladesh data.   --------------- “The judicial commission which probed the Marad killings in Kerala ……. executing the gruesome violence on the night of May 2, 2003 in which nine persons were killed. ……..The fishing village of Marad, off Kozhikode, first hit the headlines on January 3, 2002 when Hindus and Muslims clashed after a trivial altercation during celebrations on New Year's eve. Two Hindus and three Muslims were found dead the morning after. A year-and-a-half later, a large mob chopped and hacked eight Hindu fishermen to death on the beach on May 2, 2003. One assailant was hacked to death by mistake by his compatriots during the carnage “ Haj subsidy balloons to Rs 385 cr : “Cabinet okays hike in number of pilgrim by 10,000 With 10,000 more pilgrims being allowed to undertake Haj pilgrimage this year, the Government subsidy is all set to mount to Rs 385 crore approximately. The Centre on Thursday decided to enhance the quota under its subsidy scheme to 1.1 lakh pilgrims from the existing one lakh.   http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story5%2Etxt&counter_img=5 While Haj subsidy balloons to Rs 385 cr, crores of rupees are being collected from the HINDU temples and are being deposited in the Indian treasurary for benefit of all Indian. These are the ownerless temple are taken over by the Indian government and managed. Government is spending 10% or so collection foir the management of the temples. ---     Is there a solution of future Hindu-Muslim conflict in India?How to safeguard Hindus and Hindu India   The growth of Muslim population from 7% to 14% in last 50 years which means 138 million Muslim people. In another 50 years this will be somewhere close to 30% or 300 million. Increasing Muslim population is a very long term trend.(table I and II) One should remember how Pakistan was created. How less than 30% population of undivided India forced to create Pakistan. Kashmiri Muslims ( less than 5 million) want separation from India. Bordering areas of West Bengal and Assam consist of virtually 100% Muslim population with vast number of illegal Bangladeshi Muslims. In Kosovo, Albanian Muslims have outnumbered the Christian Slavic population over centuries and on the verge of creation of Muslim Kosovo Nation. Rapid growth of Muslim population is a world wide phenomenon. This is true in UK, France, Holland and even in USA. 2000 to 3000 US citizens mainly blacks are getting converted to Islam every month. ““There are almost a billion reasons to suggest that Moslem [sic.] influence will grow,” wrote demographer and commentator Ben Wattenberg ten years ago, citing figures from the government funded Population Reference Bureau (PRB) in Washington. “In 1950, there were 375 million Moslems in the world. There are 983 million today. By 2020, PRB projection shows almost 2 billion,” he continued in a book with the revealing title, The First Universal Nation.” Reference: News Archive, The Rush to War Fear, not Strength. http://www.africa2000.com/newsarchive.html This trend is unlikely to reverse in near or far future or ever.   Table I Statistics of Indian Population UNDIVIDED INDIA: Percent of total population on Hindu-Muslim religions between 1871-2001 Year   Hindu   Muslim 1871   73.50   21.50 1881   78.09   19.97 1891   74.24   20.41 1901   72.87   21.88 1911   71.68   22.39 1921   70.73   23.23 1931   70.67   23.49 1941   69.46   24.28 After the partition in divided India1947   87/88    7-9** 1951   85       9.9 1961   83.5    10.7 1971   82.7    11.2 1981   82.6    11.4 1991   82.0    12.1 2001   80.5    13.4 TableII A COMPARISON OF 1871 and 1980 DATA FROM VAIABLE DATA. `APPROXIMATE COMBINED POPULATION OF INDIA+PAKISTAN+BANGLADESH in percentage (%) Year  Hindu  Muslim 1871* 73.50  21.5 1980  63.8   28.2` 1980 data may not be 100% correct as this obtained from different sources. Point here is, if one wish to compare the Hindu/Muslim population growth, it should also take into account for the entire Indian sub-continent. Table III FERTILITY RATE BY DIFFERENT RELIGION 2001 CENSUS NUMBER OF CHILDREN PER WOMAN                HINDUS SIKHS CHRISTINE MUSLIM Fertility rate  2.8    2.3     2.4      3.6 Table IV DECADAL HINDU/MUSLIM GROWTH RATE (%) BETWEEN 1 RELIGION 1961-1971 1971-1981 1981-1991 1991-2001 HINDU       23.7     21.3      22.8       20 MUSLIM      30.8     22.9      32.9       29.3 961 & 2001The Muslim growth and fertility rate is almost 50% higher over the decades as compared to the Hindus( table III&IV). Most likely this was so in the past and will continue in future. During the next 50 year, Muslim population will increase more rapidly as growth rate of the Hindus will fall at a greater rate than the Muslim growth rate. There is no doubt that India will be divided again and again, on basis of religion. unless something is done or unforeseen happens. The SOLUTION is: already happening and will continue to happen in a smaller scale spontaneously. At present there are predominant Muslim and Hindus areas of every Indian cities. Only Muslim or only Hindu villages with occasional only minor overlap. After every communal riot there is migration of population as happening now in Iraq. Shias are moving to Shia dominated areas and Sonis are moving to Soni dominated areas. There is already state in North East where Christian dominates. In Kashmir , this has already been achieved by force. When Muslim minority in India reaches a significant number, Muslim Kashmiris will be able to break way at will. Virtually 100% Muslim dominated areas of bordering W Bengal and Assam with large number of illegal Bangladeshi Muslim can as well demand independent or want to join Bangladesh. This is a reality, if the Muslim in W Bengal and Assam (many are Bangladeshis) feel they are discriminated in power sharing , or wish to impose Muslim laws or some Bangladeshi Muslim for financial gain or wish to grab some land , tmay decide simply to breakaway. With increasing Muslim population in India, minor and major communal riot will be a more frequent occurrences Once again communal riot may be used to break up the country. Even after Ghodra, there was communal riot in Kerala where eight people were killed and all were Hindus. In 1971 Pakistani Army killed some 2.5 million Bengalee Hindus( no, not a misprint) in E Pakistan. Not many Indians including Hindu Bengalee know this. At present there is no one in earth can prevent genocide It will continue to occur at various parts of world. Look at Darfur , What happening there now-today, as we are living, is just shameful. World just watch can do nothing to stop this massive genocide. Obviously, this can happen in many parts of the world and will happen including India. So Something should be done urgently.   The SOLUTION suggested is deliberate, disciplined and equitable process of separation and is the best workable acceptable solution to most with some persuasion. After every communal riot, this is going to happen spontaneously mixed with human sufferings, whether we like it or not.. Then why not avoid this situation and do it right way. Separation solution is to make portion of India only for Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhist and people with Hindu affiliation.. About one third of Hindu population. may accept this idea. No other people of other faith is allowed to live there or own land or property. Christians, Sikhs and Muslim will be allowed to do same. One region is for people of every faith and atheist.. If any other group wants separate piece of area , make their case to the decision making committee. This is the basic idea and gradually need to be built up and modified as needed. This is not a over night easy solution. It will take few hundred years This will need to be gradually implemented but need an urgent start. Sooner this is done, the better for every faith. Other option will be to make India(Bharat) as a Hindu country. For this there has to be an election for the Hindus to decide this. This is a real possibility once the Muslim population exceed 20%. The Hindus may be frightened enough just to do this. If this happens, family planning can be enforced to all Indian on equal basis and restrict excess growth of one particular faith.- On a lighter thought, people of same faith and similar inclination who believe in this “separation solution” can just start on their own, instead of waiting. They can start buying adjoining lands gradually and make their own little province of peace and tranquility.   This will some extent will solve the illegal Muslim immigration from neighboring countries. They will have less place to seek job and settle. Here needs a clarification about those Hindus come to India illegally, they are more of refugees, rather than immigrant. They are not terrorist or threat to India. Lastly, education is the basis of prosperity and containment of population growth. Educated Muslims tend to have more children ! Is there any truth to this? Table VPOPULATION OF BENGAL,BANGLADESH (PREVIOUSLY East Pakistan) by religion, year and percent Year Hindu   Muslim 1871 64.5%   32.3% 1941 ?28+    70.4 1951 22      76.8 1961 ?18.5   80.4 1982  12.7%  85.9 1991  10-12  87-88 2001  8+/-   90 There are 700+ minority Hindu population disappearing daily from Bangladesh Tab VlPOPULATION OF W. BENGAL BY RELIGION (%)& YEAR Year Hindus  Muslim 1947 86-87   10-15 1991 74.72           23.61 2001 72.5+     25.2* In spite of lakhs of Hindu migration from E. Pakistan/Bangladesh over the years to W Bengal, it is so surprising that Muslim population in West Bengal has more than doubled in last 50 years Beside, most likely the figure 25.2% is an underestimation, as many illegal Muslim Bangladeshis were not counted in the last census References for the tables and other data:https://deathwishofhindus.tripod.com/ ------------------------ “The judicial commission which probed the Marad killings in Kerala ……. executing the gruesome violence on the night of May 2, 2003 in which nine persons were killed. ……..The fishing village of Marad, off Kozhikode, first hit the headlines on January 3, 2002 when Hindus and Muslims clashed after a trivial altercation during celebrations on New Year's eve. Two Hindus and three Muslims were found dead the morning after. A year-and-a-half later, a large mob chopped and hacked eight Hindu fishermen to death on the beach on May 2, 2003. One assailant was hacked to death by mistake by his compatriots during the carnage ““Cabinet okays hike in number of pilgrim by 10,000 With 10,000 more pilgrims being allowed to undertake Haj pilgrimage this year, the Government subsidy is all set to mount to Rs 385 crore approximately. The Centre on Thursday decided to enhance the quota under its subsidy scheme to 1.1 lakh pilgrims from the existing one lakh. “ ---     --- The SOLUTION suggested is deliberate, disciplined and equitable process of separation and is the best workable acceptable solution to most with some persuasion. After every communal riot, this is going to happen spontaneously mixed with human sufferings, whether we like it or not.. Then why not avoid this situation and do it right way. Separation solution is to make portion of India only for Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhist and people with Hindu affiliation.. About one third of Hindu population. may accept this idea. No other people of other faith is allowed to live there or own land or property. Christians, Sikhs and Muslim will be allowed to do same. One region is for people of every faith and atheist.. If any other group wants separate piece of area , make their case to the decision making committee. This is the basic idea and gradually need to be built up and modified as needed. This is not a over night easy solution. It will take few hundred years This will need to be gradually implemented but need an urgent start. Sooner this is done, the better for every faith. Other option will be to make India(Bharat) as a Hindu country. For this there has to be an election for the Hindus to decide this. This is a real possibility once the Muslim population exceed 20%. The Hindus may be frightened enough just to do this. If this happens, family planning can be enforced to all Indian on equal basis and restrict excess growth of one particular faith.- On a lighter thought, people of same faith and similar inclination who believe in this “separation solution” can just start on their own, instead of waiting. They can start buying adjoining lands gradually and make their own little province of peace and tranquility.   This will some extent will solve the illegal Muslim immigration from neighboring countries. They will have less place to seek job and settle. Here needs a clarification about those Hindus come to India illegally, they are more of refugees, rather than immigrant. They are not terrorist or threat to India. Lastly, education is the basis of prosperity and containment of population growth. Educated Muslims tend to have more children ! Is there any truth to this? Table V POPULATION OF BENGAL,BANGLADESH (PREVIOUSLY East Pakistan) by religion, year and percentYear Hindu   Muslim 1871 64.5%   32.3% 1941 ?28+    70.4 1951 22      76.8 1961 ?18.5   80.4 1982  12.7%  85.9 1991  10-12  87-88 2001  8+/-   90 There are 700+ minority Hindu population disappearing daily from Bangladesh Tab VlPOPULATION OF W. BENGAL BY RELIGION (%)& YEAR Year Hindus  Muslim 1947 86-87   10-15 1991 74.72           23.61 2001 72.5+     25.2* In spite of lakhs of Hindu migration from E. Pakistan/Bangladesh over the years to W Bengal, it is so surprising that Muslim population in West Bengal has more than doubled in last 50 years Beside, most likely the figure 25.2% is an underestimation, as many illegal Muslim Bangladeshis were not counted in the last census References for the tables and other data:https://deathwishofhindus.tripod.com/ ------------------------ The demographic character of the State is changing fast. The percentage of Muslims in the State, which stood at 24.68 per cent according to the 1951 Census, was recorded at 30.92 per cent in 2001. In the Bongaigaon district, their population rose by 31.84 per cent between 1991 and 2001. In the same period, Muslim population rose by 29.58 per cent at Dhubri and by 19.15 per cent at Kokrajhar. In Karimganj and Hailakandi, the growth was 58 per cent and 52 per cent respectively. http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=EDITS&file_name=edit3%2Etxt&counter_img=3 jan12.2007 Jinnah's agenda included Assam Balbir K Punj http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=EDITS&file_name=edit3%2Etxt&counter_img=3 jan12.2007 Jinnah's agenda included Assam Balbir K Punj --------------- Minority cleansing in Bangladesh Author: Hiranmay Karlekar Publication: The Pioneer Date: November 30, 2001 Begum Khaleda Zia, Prime Minister of Bangladesh, must be grateful to the war in Afghanistan which continues to hog media attention the world over. Otherwise the large-scale atrocities on the minorities (Hindus, Buddhists and Christians) and the Fascist repression on political opponents and dissenters, continuing in that country since the general elections of October 1 which returned her Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) to power with a massive majority, would have attracted worldwide condemnation. The situation is grim for the minorities. Terrorised by murders, rapes, looting of property, burning of houses, and assaults on a large scale, over 15,000 Hindus have already crossed over to the border areas of West Bengal. About 100,000 more are reportedly trying to follow suit but are being hindered by police and para-military personnel ordered to stop them. The Bangladesh Government has, of course, sought to play down the scale of the atrocities. In a recent statement in the country's Jatiya Sangsad (National Parliament), the country's Home Minister, Mr Altaf Hussain Choudhury, put the number of those killed and raped over a period of 25 days at 266 and 213 respectively. While these figures are high enough, the actual incidence of the crimes appears to have been much higher. Governments invariably seek to understate the extent of violence and atrocities on all such occasions. On the other hand, the virtually token observance of the Durga Puja this year, which is normally celebrated with great fanfare, mirrored the terrorisation of the Hindus. Also telling is the Bangladesh High Court's notice to the Government on November 24 asking it why it should not be told to take proper steps to protect the minorities "from terrorist attacks and harassment." According to the 25 November issue of The Daily Star, a Division Bench of the High Court, comprising Justice MA Matin and Justice Mazharul Huq, which heard a petition filed by the NGO, Ain-o-Salish (Law and Arbitration) gave the government four weeks' time to explain. According to a report in the highly-respected and widely-circulated Bangla daily Janakantha (The Voice of the People), the atrocities on Hindus this time exceeded in places even those inflicted on them during the liberation war in 1971. In a piece in the same daily of October 16, Bangladesh's greatest living poet, Mr Samsur Rahman, wrote, "It is a matter of regret that atrocities by terrorists on the minorities have been continuously increasing in many parts of Bangladesh, particularly in the muffosils, over several days. There have been repeated attacks; the homes of the minorities have become deserted. Women have been victims of rape. To save their lives and honour, many have been compelled to leave their homes and hearths with heavy hearts and embrace endless agonies with tear-laden eyes in the hope of finding refuge in India." (Translated from Bengali by this writer). Mr Rahman clearly hints at the identity of the killers, rapists and looters when, later in the passage, he attributes the violence to "a few people, mad with the heady feeling of victory." They are supporters of the BNP and its allies, the Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) and the Islami Oikya Jote (IOJ-Islamic Unity Alliance), which swept the hustings in the last general election. Several factors account for their violence. The JeI and IOJ are both fundamentalist Islamic organisations that seek to Talibanise Bangladesh and expel all Hindus from the country. The recent attacks, moreover, have to be seen in the context of the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist strikes against the Untied States which has created feeling of both pride and anger among a large section of Muslims in Bangladesh whose constituents were not followers of these parties until now.

Haj subsidy balloons to Rs 385 cr

Siddhartha Mishra | New Delhi

Cabinet okays hike in number of pilgrim by 10,000

With 10,000 more pilgrims being allowed to undertake Haj pilgrimage this year, the Government subsidy is all set to mount to Rs 385 crore approximately.

The Centre on Thursday decided to enhance the quota under its subsidy scheme to 1.1 lakh pilgrims from the existing one lakh

The decision was taken at a meeting of the Union Cabinet chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The movement of second batch of pilgrims from India to Saudi Arabia during Haj 2006 is due to commence later this month. Air India, which is hired by the Central Haj Committee to ferry the pilgrims, will add more flights from India to Saudi Arabia this year.

The Cabinet also approved a proposal for transportation of other Haj pilgrims by Air India or Indian from Kolkata, Calicut, Nagpur, Aurangabad, Patna, Guwahati, Jaipur and Srinagar. The increase in number under subsidy would add an additional burden of Rs 3.5 crore.

According to Central Haj Committee vice-chairman Hasan Ahmed, the committee charges between Rs 85,000 to Rs 1.2 lakh from each pilgrim who registers with them. The pilgrims are required to pay an airfare of Rs 12,500 directly to Air India for flight to Jeddah. The Government subsidises the remaining part of approximately Rs 45,000 fare.

The subsidised part of the airfare is paid by the Government directly to the airlines costing the taxpayer nearly Rs 385 crore. "It's wrong to say that the subsidy is going either to the Haj pilgrim or the Haj Committee. The Government pays the air-carrier directly. There are other airlines, which are carrying passengers at much discounted rates. But since Air India is official carrier, we have to go through them," Ahmed said.

"Of the money we charge, Rs 25,000 is refunded to each pilgrim in Saudi currency on their arrival in Jeddah towards food expenses. We keep the remaining amount for their accommodation and local transport in Saudi Arabia during the period of pilgrimage," Ahmed added.

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Author: H Bula Devi
Publication: The Statesman
Date: January 26, 2001

Economic has often played a bigger role than faith in religious conversions. Something similar has been happening in Saudi Arabia.

More than 23,000 Indian-origin Hindus have converted to Islam in the past decade, according to senior officials in the Indian mission in Riyadh. The reason: the faith-based hierarchy in state-provided facilities.

The hierarchy persists even in death. Families of victims or murder victims who are Muslims get 100,000 Saudi riyals as compensation. A Christian family gets half that amount, that is 50,000 riyals, and a Hindu family, one-fifteenth; 6,666 riyals, to be precise.

Mission sources said conversions to Islam may also have to do wit the souring of may Indian immigrants’ hopes. Indian immigration agents usually promise jobs like hotel managers, chauffeurs of high-profile dignitaries or chefs in top restaurants.

But many Indians, on reaching here, find themselves offered menial employment at, by Saudi standards, meagre salaries. Another “surprise” often awaiting them is that companies which issue employment visas themselves don’t employ the workers but release them for employment in the open market in return for an annual fee.

Such workers then face the choice of following the new rules of he game or going back. The latter is often an impossible option because many take an heavy debt burdens back home to finance their trip to the kingdom.

Shakti Gupta (name changed) came to Saudi Arabia because he was promised a technician’s job at a steep, and tax-free, salary. But when he landed here after taking loans from various sources, he was offered the job of a labourer at a construction site.

Shakti stayed back – he says his family financial commitments left him with no choice – and he soon converted to Islam. After reading out the Kalma and receiving a certificate from the mosque, he approached the Indian mission, which changed his name with proper advertisements in newspapers.

The Indian mission here has also dealt with cases in which Indian immigrants have come and complained of “unbearable treatment”. Many of these complaints were employed as domestic help. Some senior officials also said that cases of s by Indians in the kingdom have gone up, especially in the last year. But they could not give any data for this.

Considering the fact that an overwhelming majority of Indians here are in the blue-collar category, the Indian embassy gets a large number of complaints involving cheating by Indian agents, who charge exorbitant sums of money (Rs 50,000 to Rs. 75,000) from prospective employees. Recruits pay these amounts by incurring huge debts at usurious rates.

“This undermines the worker’s bargaining power and forces him to tolerate even unfair terms of employment, including revision of terms of contract after his arrival in the kingdom, according to the mission.

Under the Saudi law, the Saudi sponsor is legally responsible for all aspects of his employees working and living conditions and movement within the kingdom for security reason. Thus the passport of the expatriate workers of the categories are kept in the custody of the Saudi sponsor.

But this not only restricted free movement of the workers, in some cases when the passports get lost or damaged, workers, for no fault of theirs have to shell out a fee of 775 Saudi riyals to necessitate the issue of a duplicate passport according to rules.

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The Plight of Hindu Temples in India

By A Correspondent -- Hindu institutions and Hinduism in India are unfairly targeted by combination of Christian, Muslim Fundamentalists, Vote bank politics and unscrupulous politicians and businessmen. Particularly alarming is destruction of Hindu institutions and illegal mass conversions. Through Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowment Act, Hindu temples and Maths are taken over by state Governments in the name of better administration while mosques and churches are completely autonomous. This Act allowed the state governments and politicians complete control over the temples and their property. Many abuses are committed by multiple state governments using the power accorded through this Act. In Andhra Pradesh under Chief Minister Y. Samuel Rajasekar Reddy, thousands of acres of temple lands are sold away leaving temples with little economic basis. The state government and the endowments department whose duty is to safeguard the temples properties have turned a blind eye to encroachments. The state government recently went to extent of regularizing encroachments at nominal prices. The encroaches are often found to be closely associated to various political parties. Even the world famous sacred Tirumala-Tirupati is not spared. The government attempted to take over 5 out of 7 Tirumala hills for churches and tourism. 1000 pillar Mantapam in Tirumala is illegally demolished. Recently in response to Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swami’s petition, the AP High Court has declared the demolition illegal and instructed the TTD to reconstruct. Son of the Chief Minister even blew up a Hindu Temple in Anantapur. Mutts that did not come earlier under government supervision are taken into government control for selling away their lands. The charge that 85 percent of the revenues is taken into state exchequer was not denied by the state government. The State Endowment Board with 77,000 employees supported by 15-8 percent of 33,000 temples’ income has done little for the welfare of the Hindu institutions. At the same time, temples priests are penniless and temples are decaying due to lack of maintenance. The net result of this strategic and planned selling of all temples properties seems to be designed to completely cripple Hindu institutions in the state with little hope for their survival and pave the way for major Christianization of the state using illegal mass conversions. The same government at the same time is spending crores of rupees for churches and mosques is planning on providing government subsidy to visit the Christian sacred land, Beth-lehem.

AP government Order 21 gave crores of rupees for the renovation and construction of churches. Almost all these activities are violation of constitution that separates the state and religion. In Karnataka, for example, in 2003, 79 crores was collected from about two lakh temples. From that, temples received 7 crores was given for their maintenance, Muslim Madrassas and Haj subsidy (for trip to Mecca) was given 59 crores, churches about 13 crores. 25 percent of the two lakh temples i.e., about 50,000 in Karnataka will be closed down for lack of resources. Hindu priests do not want to train children in priestly activities for lack of economical basis. In Kerala, funds from Guruvayur temple is diverted to other government projects denying improvements to 45 Hindu temples. Land belonging to Ayyappa temple is grabbed and church backed encroaches are occupying huge areas of forestland running into thousands of acres near Sabarimala. With a new Devaswom ordinance 1800 new temples are taken under government control. The looting of temple finances and properties continues unabated. It is said that this state alone has 29,000 Christian missionaries and clergy and 19,000 in Muslim counterpart whose main preoccupation of conversion of Hindus. Kerala is a precursor for state of things to come for Hindu community. With 56 percent Hindu population, it hardly controls 25 percent of the economy. In Maharashtra, government recently declared to take over all the temples. This is a precursor to repeat the process already happening in Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Kerala. Articles 25 and 26 of the Indian Constitution guarantee for public establishment and maintenance of religious institutions and to administer such property in accordance with law. While looting Hindu Institutions, the Governments subsidizes the “Hajj” pilgrimage of the Muslims to the tune of Rs. 380 crores annually (including subsidy to airlines), and provides 1000 crores per year for Imams salaries, and provides funds to churches. The current laws in the country are discriminatory towards Hindu religious institutions and it is important Hindus demand that government accord Hindu institutions the same status as Muslim and Christian institutions.